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  1. #1 by Daniel Sellers at September 6th, 2009

    Sorry to hear about all those jerks up there. I think you problem maybe one of location. I ride in and around Houston and haven’t seen this at all.

    Sometimes I think people in general are becoming less courteous though…

  2. #2 by Jose Riveros at September 6th, 2009


    I hear you. Here in New York you do get all kinds. Angry roadies to *pista-faced* hipsters riding “brakeless”.

    I will say this though, the friendliest riders have been ex-pros and Europeans who are visiting or working in NYC.

    Keep up the hard riding!

  3. #3 by Saqib at September 6th, 2009


    It’s not that friendly in London either, I’d quite like to say an acknowledging ‘hi’ to other cyclists, but you get blank stares as if to say that by merely speaking to them I’ve shown myself up to be ‘just a leisure cyclist’ and not a ‘serious athlete’ like them.

    The problem you have with women cyclists may just be more revealing about their defence mechanisms against creepy male cyclists using the common interest as a crutch to make to possibly ‘try it on’, which isn’t exactly fair given how ridiculous the majority look in lycra but what can you do.

    I’d rather not have my ride spoiled by cold stares or an assumption of lechery so rather sadly I’ve resorted to saying nothing now but will happily respond when acknowledged. Your post has made me question whether it might be worth remaining true to my nature and saying friendly ‘hi’ after all. Thanks for sharing, it made me think.

    Keep on, my grey bearded friend.

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  4. #4 by Liam at September 6th, 2009

    Hi Andy,

    Although I don’t ride as you do I love to ride BMX, I presume these type of people are everywhere you visit however which is very sad.

    Within the BMX community, when you visit a new skate park for the first time its seems the vast majority of the local riders there are look down their noses at you or watch you vigorously as though they are being taken over by some sort of ‘alpha male’ syndrome.

    Its nice to know there are some riders out there like you however and I love reading your blog!

    Hope your well,

  5. #5 by Bryan at September 8th, 2009

    I didn’t realize you were in the Dallas area too. I ride down at White Rock Lake probably 4 or 5 days a week and see the mix like you said. Far more people don’t say anything than those that do. I always try to say ‘left’ but am bad about not saying hello or good morning/afternoon. I need to improve on that. Like you said, some of the chicks are the worst and I get the feeling that they would just as soon run me into the lake than have to break their aero position on their TT/tri bike. There is one girl though that has said hi on a couple of occasions and usually follows it with a good afternoon/morning. She’s caught me by surprise both times.

  6. #6 by E. Tage Larsen at September 12th, 2009


    Ah the loneliness of the long-distance cyclist. Though not entirely true it is fairly well understood that cycling is a sport for yourself rather than a group activity. This changes in the face of club rides and racing. Sometimes on your local stretch you’ll pull along somebody at about a similar pace and have a friendly chat with somebody before one or the other of you tires.

    But nobody wants to ride with the “new guy”. In club rides they usually do fairly well to advertise how hilly it is what grade of climber you need to be and what the average pace is on flats. Private groups are self selective that way.

    Meeting somebody mid-ride throws up flags that you might want to hang out because you’re both on bikes when the odds of you and them being in the same shape and with the same training routine at pretty slim odds. As noted above, women likely will always be much less receptive to casual greetings unless you’ve brought a girl with you to disarm things.

    I don’t know that cyclists are worse than other people. It’s competitive which is already a small end of the pond. It’s pretty isolated. A LOT of people at the upper ends are Tri-athletes, and those people are Really fucked up.

    Your best bet for social interaction is at some sort of short loop where riders of different levels congregate and if somebody digs your patter … they can chill for a loop and hang out. It sounds like the straightaway that you have is only going to alienate things for you. People going from point A to point B really don’t want to be delayed.

    Times they do change though. Old school riders are very civil. I’m one of the few people i know that still asks if people are “alright” when they’ve stopped with a flat. The kids don’t have that air of civility these days.

    And, instead of “Left” perhaps you’d get more action from a cordial, “On your Left.” :)

    But then, I’m a misanthropist so perhaps you should take all this optimism with a grain of salt.

  7. #7 by hjq at September 15th, 2009

    I just bought a dirt cheap 700c road bike at target just for fun and nothing competitive . I have not ran into other bikers on the road but I did post a thread at the bicycle forum.com about using my 3.5oz paintball bottle of co2 to fill my 110psi tires and wow. I felt smaller that dirt with all the very negative feed back. I figure if the majority of them are that rude in private then I would not want to meet them in person.

  8. #8 by Josh Bruce at September 21st, 2009

    I find most sports which pit skill versus skill to be this way – unfriendly competition. One of the reasons I like doing Parkour in my area – not many people wanting to “give-it-a-go” as it were.

    A line from With Honors pretty much sums up my experience (because I ask): “Winners forget they’re in a race, they just love to run.”

    Or to put it a different way, the “jerks” of the activity are competing against the other people around them in some way. While those of us trying to outdo what we last did – don’t really care about how fast the guy ahead of us is going; or, how big the distance is between us and those behind us.

    And, to put it in the context of my activity of choice, I don’t look at some of the more experienced guys in jealousy, “I wish I could do that.” I just think – man I did 72 hop squats, over 3/4 a mile…and so on – and I’m not drenched in sweat (Yay me!).

    Just my thoughts. Keep rollin’ man. Have fun.

  9. #9 by Leslie at September 28th, 2009

    I’m really glad you mentioned this because I was wondering about it too. The cyclists I have interacted with are a little friendlier than what you have experienced, but not by that much.

    I’m female and if I see you out there, you’ll know it’s me because I’ll say hello!

  10. #10 by pirata at October 1st, 2009

    Its the elitism. For some reason a seeming majority seem to think we all become frickin AWESOME when we ride on the road, and ALWAYS AWESOMER than anyone else. Especially if you dare challenge the AWESOMENESS by passing. I think a howdy as you pass is the equivalent to pushing them over then taking a piss in their face. So whatever, try not to let what I hope/believe is, perhaps barely, a minority in the sport. No doubt about it, having been involved in many sports, the road has the highest Asshole Quotient I have seen.

  11. #11 by Eric at October 10th, 2009

    You’re not alone man; I find that now-a-days people are just not that friendly. I love to ride, I don’t do it competitively but I used to ride long distance until the gray ghost caught up with me. I enjoy cruising the beach here in Southern California, one can cover quite some distance, but some of the snobs you ride across can quickly turn your sun & fun into shorts full of sand. I love to speak to people, it puts such a smile on my face to get a pleasant response in return, so HELLO to you!

  12. #12 by Steve at October 26th, 2009

    What I’ve found over the last 20+ years of road riding is that people riding the latest and greatest high dollar carbon crap are usually the worst culprits this “asshole” syndrome. And you can split them up into two categories: The wannabe racer, usually a doctor or lawyer, absolutely furious because he’s getting passed by me on my single speed steel cross bike, and he dropped 10k on his new Colnago thinking it was gonna make him “fast”. Secondly, the local 20 something club racer with something to prove. Always willing to chase me down on the flats, but become very annoyed when I pass them on the next climb. If I see club racers coming the opposite way I won’t wave unless they do it first. Usually they’re just judging me by what I’m riding or even wearing. I made kind of a broad generalization, and it doesn’t apply to everyone. I’ve found the nicest cyclists are just nice people in general, doesn’t matter what they’re riding.

  13. #13 by chris ronan at November 5th, 2009

    Andy – This is a great topic and one that I am fairly passionate about. A long time ago I used to do a little bike racing and was at White Rock Lake nearly every day as part of my training routine. I don’t ride competitively anymore…but do on occasion ride at the lake. A couple of years ago I started riding motorcycles. Love it. Try to ride EVERY day. One thing I’ve noticed about that community that I love is how every single person you go by will wave (almost everyone). This impresses me. And, it makes me think that we should be doing the same.

    We who ride bicycles generally have a passion for anything that has to do with two wheels. Even if you don’t ride a motorcycle, do you turn your head and look as a cool looking motorcycle rolls by? The answer is likely “yes.” So I recently got into an argument with a buddy who rides when we were spinning around the lake…. I told him “everyone should at least wave.” What’s so special about a person where they can’t wave? I don’t get it. My buddy disagreed with me and somewhere the conversation just moved on.

    Since then, I’ve made up my mind. I’m going to wave at everyone who rides by me. If they look and do not respond (as most cyclists do in Dallas) then they are idiots. My next wave to that person as we are doing “up and backs” or laps will be more of a condescending wave…. Bottom line is I’m going to do this until they break their “concentration” and wave back. What’s even more ridiculous is that many who don’t wave look like pros but ride very slowly. If I can get my fat ass to pedal faster than them, then they are just not that fast… even more, they need to just be polite.

    Bottom line is I agree with your frustration… We’re all on bikes because we generally love it. It’s a time in space where we get to spin out a few miles. Our best ideas happen there. Our best times are spend in the saddle. And sadly, sometimes our friends die there. So what the hell is wrong with celebrating our experience together. If nearly every motorcycle pilot can do that at 75 mph, why can’t a cyclist do it at <20 mph (the speed most are going).

    I’ve recently made a vow to do a ceremonial wave. It’s just a core principal for me…. Thanks for doing it too.


  14. #14 by elijah at November 11th, 2009

    If you boil it down, they’re afraid of something. It’s possible they are debilitated temporarily by some recent event, which deserves our forgiveness, but usually I suspect it is due to an ingrained personal insecurity (fear). The only issue for me would be whether I allow it to create fear in myself and cause me to react in a negative way or in a manner which is contrary to my natural inclination — which in your case seems to be courteous, friendly and measured behavior. By all means, we should all strive for these simple traits, lest we be afraid and become assholes to the remaining friendly individuals ourselves.


  15. #15 by Nick at November 26th, 2009

    Andy, I ride my bike through Boston to work and I have definitely encountered much of what your grumbling about. I think there is a good amount of competition amongst bikers on the road, especially in high traffic areas like cities. Think about how it is when your in a car. But in the end, just be one less asshole and be courteous. Its far to easy to go around being impersonal and just blocking out the world like alot of people do. Keep ridin’ bro!

  16. #16 by Oengus at June 9th, 2010

    I think demanding a certain behavior of other makes you an asshole, I do not have to say Hi? I would acknowledge people that do and not doing so would be rude, so you can say hello to everyone if you like that’s what you have control of and nothing else ass-cap.

    I would say the asshole factor runs constant in society close to 80% from my observations, sometime I am one just for sport might as well nobody seems to surprised they must be used to it.

    Woman will not be that friendly; too many assholes take that as flirting…..so they avoid being friendly they learned it can lead into something they are not remotely interested in addressing. Maybe you could move to Stepford were they all say hello and isn’t it a beautiful day even when its raining.

    I have ridden hundreds of miles….it for exercise not to make friend, sometimes I go with friends but I never ever have any expectation of passer byes, I think doing so would….well make me an asshole.

    If person make eye contact you can acknowledge that depending on the duration, its public shared space. Nothing should be forced on anyone, particularly being sociable or friendly with total strangers.

    Think about it if they are assholes then why would you want to exchange pleasantries with them? Everyone is an asshole until proven otherwise, are you not having luck getting past that marker?

    Somebody once asked me while inline skating why I only wear wrist protectors and not a helmet and knee protectors, it was offered with the most condescending tone, I said back, I use these to protect my hand when I smack assholes around. I suppose that was a story they told to other assholes and some may ask them did he smack you then? I would! I think that makes me the anti-asshole while other may say it makes me an asshole in fact bet that 80% would agree with that, it is an insecurity thing.

  17. #17 by mij at October 2nd, 2010

    Nice topic. Here are my observations. I was out with injury for about a year. When I came back to cycling and orde for two years, I chose to ride alone and nurse my health back to close to prior levels before trying any group rides. Bikes are expensive, and many riders, when you first ride with a club will “feel you out”. Ask what profession you are in( God help you if you are blue collar). They want to find out what you status in life is first and foremost. I do not get asked how long I have been riding, what my aspirations or experience is. They dont even ask if I know hand signals and safety. Just Who are you, where do you live( exclusive area they hope) your job and FINANCIAL status. Assholes located and indentified. if they are the strongest riders in the group then you have a double A_ _ . I can ride better than you and I am in a higher income bracket than you! Ah, isnt life great! LOL! Work hard to achieve moral and ethical diginity just to throw it out on a single bike ride. I wil ride with anybody, from ANY economic class who wants to have fun and ride. Any race, any background. Just bring a smile and open mind to enjoy a good ride.

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